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events:conf:2022-04-02 [2022-04-03 07:27] – [Development branch] ywangevents:conf:2022-04-02 [2023-01-17 17:24] (current) – old revision restored (2022-08-07 20:45) ywang
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 ===== Timetable system ===== ===== Timetable system =====
 (notes by @ywang) (notes by @ywang)
-  * The [[dev:lines:timetable_plan|timetable system proposal]] was brought up again, as in the previous conference.+  * The [[dev:proposals:timetable_plan|timetable system proposal]] was brought up again, as in the previous conference.
   * dario23 requested a user-friendly API for the timetable system.   * dario23 requested a user-friendly API for the timetable system.
   * gpcf noted that a timetable system could make it easier to create information systems.   * gpcf noted that a timetable system could make it easier to create information systems.
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     * orwell: Clearly he doesn't mind us using them because he isn't suing.     * orwell: Clearly he doesn't mind us using them because he isn't suing.
       * Blockhead (only in retrospect): Yes, and he also has merged some changes recently.       * Blockhead (only in retrospect): Yes, and he also has merged some changes recently.
 +
 +===== Jitsi Meeting Chat Log =====
 +<code>
 +erstazi
 +erstazi sagt:hi Marnack 
 +22:05
 +Marnack
 +Marnack sagt:hi 
 +Marnack sagt:I've read it 
 +22:07
 +erstazi
 +erstazi sagt:
 +http://advtrains.de/wiki/doku.php?id=dev:lines:timetable_plan
 + 
 +22:07
 +orwell
 +Ich sage:
 +http://advtrains.de/wiki/doku.php?id=dev:lines:timetable_plan
 + 
 +22:07
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:standard station track and timetable-specific station track 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:relative times vs absolute times? 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:how about a scrollable list that opens up into a closeable tab? 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:
 +https://luk3yx.gitlab.io/minetest-formspec-editor/
 + 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:this one? 
 +22:25
 +Marnack
 +Marnack sagt:Yes I've tried that formspec tool.  It's  pretty good. 
 +22:26
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:it doesn't have the scroll_container etc, but it's still good for basic formspecs 
 +22:26
 +Fellow Jitster
 +Fellow Jitster sagt:gtg good day 
 +22:29
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:kthxbai 
 +22:29
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:ciao 
 +22:29
 +Fellow Jitster
 +Fellow Jitster sagt:dario we talk tomorrow 
 +Fellow Jitster sagt:not now 
 +22:29
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:I've tried to do a through-coach  system wholly in LuaATC, but it'd be very hard to schedule it imo 
 +22:32
 +Marnack
 +Marnack sagt:Could the taimetable simply trigger that Lua once it arrives? 
 +22:33
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:event = {type="timetable", timetable=true, timetable_id="id"} 
 +22:34
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:now there's two of them 
 +22:38
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:the trouble is that it's easier to stop a train with the E-Brake when there's lag than it is to slow it normally 
 +22:43
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:NEW TRACK:
 +
 +FUNCTIONS:
 +
 +- give infos to stations
 +
 +- give infos to train
 +
 +- more easy
 +
 +- more user-friendly interface
 +
 +- track takes infos from train and give them to stations about traffic, delay ecc…
 +
 +- make the train find a way to reduce the delay
 +
 +- track should be before station/stop rail
 +
 +- this track IS connected to the station stop rail like a tcb
 +
 +- train does not stop at this track
 +
 +- if train hasn’t delay can let pass through 
 +22:44
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:having a way to edit the route after it's been saved would be good to avoid having to completely delete and redo a route if you miss something 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:setting waypoints for the route 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:Signal boxes: would that require a custom trackplan texture per signal box though? 
 +22:54
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:That could be dynamically generated. MT has a function to render PNG afaik. 
 +22:54
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:Y. Wang is right I think 
 +Blockhead sagt:
 +https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11498
 + 
 +22:59
 +erstazi
 +erstazi sagt:gtg 
 +23:04
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:maybe just adding like here "insert a name"? 
 +23:05
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:putting the name in the email body makes it easier to impersonate people though 
 +23:06
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:i generally send patches straight from the command line 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:account creation vs greater contributor reach and easier patch submission 
 +23:14
 +56i
 +56i sagt:Sorry i'm late. I should have set an alarm 0_0 
 +23:16
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:a dev branch could be where branches are merged and beta-tested before being merged into master for release 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:but making sure that different features play well together should also be important 
 +23:23
 +56i
 +56i sagt:I personally use bleeding-edge and would like to see it continue being stable. 
 +56i sagt:But i can migrate to release if needed 
 +23:33
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:if i had access to git banananach i could contribute in certain things 
 +23:35
 +56i
 +56i sagt:We should have had this 17:00+Z /hj 
 +56i sagt:shift+o ? 
 +23:37
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:@56i, international community. This was the best match for everyone. It's 0537 for me 
 +23:37
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:the meeting time was decided by consensus at the poll site 
 +23:37
 +56i
 +56i sagt:Ah, forgot pushing Au back was a bad idea 
 +56i sagt:Just wondering, are you getting an early start or a late sleep? 
 +23:38
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:early 
 +23:39
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:56 
 +Y. Wang sagt:56i: depends on your timezone. 
 +23:39
 +56i
 +56i sagt:For me, here, BST, 22:39. I sleep at 23:00+ (sometime 01:00) 
 +56i sagt:But i can understand GCPF's pain. 
 +23:39
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:early start from me 
 +23:40
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:patches on the mailing list is easy for everyone who doesn't need access to the core advtrains git 
 +23:41
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:^ The atcjit branch started as a set of patches. 
 +23:41
 +56i
 +56i sagt:Should i make a simple english translation which simplifies technical terms and phrases to make it easier for noobs and non-natives? 
 +23:43
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:No 
 +Y. Wang sagt:"Simple English" does not have its own language code in MT 
 +23:43
 +Blockhead
 +Blockhead sagt:minetest doesn't support such a translation anyway 
 +23:43
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:i didn't think there was much that wasn't already in "simple english" 
 +23:43
 +56i
 +56i sagt:As in Wikipedia SE 
 +23:44
 +Marnack
 +Marnack sagt:Is there any interest in eliminating AdvTrains' dependency on MT Game (default, dye, etc.)? 
 +23:44
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:56i: MT doesn't support that. Also we have a manual 
 +23:44
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:👍 
 +23:44
 +56i
 +56i sagt:is it good to have diversity in tutorials? My interlocking tutorial is more regimental then others. Does it inspire fracturing or makes Advtrains easier to learn? 
 +23:46
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:56i: I don't oppose that 
 +23:47
 +56i
 +56i sagt:I'll make some on LuaATC, ATC, and other aspects 
 +56i sagt:Maybe even development 
 +23:49
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:56i: patches are welcome 
 +23:49
 +56i
 +56i sagt:*On my own server wiki 
 +56i sagt:Y. Wang: Just wondering, what's your timezone? 
 +23:52
 +Y. Wang
 +Y. Wang sagt:56i: UTC+2 
 +23:52
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:@dario23 I'd be willing to help with that if you want 
 +23:53
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:ok no problem 
 +23:53
 +56i
 +56i sagt:gpcf: I don't oppose that 
 +23:53
 +W3RQ01 - dario23
 +W3RQ01 - dario23 sagt:i'll start the site and some skins 
 +23:53
 +Marnack
 +Marnack sagt:bye 
 +23:53
 +Maverick2797
 +Maverick2797 sagt:time to go for my morning run 😛 
 +Maverick2797 sagt:the manual is good as a reference but it's probably a bit long for a tutorial 
 +23:54
 +56i
 +56i sagt:Time to go for my daily loss of conscious! 😛 
 +56i sagt:I'll have to record my server's lines
 +</code>
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